May 11: Patrushev: “The preservation of Ukraine as a state isn't included in the plans of the US”
As published in Izvestia on May 3, 2023
“The preservation of Ukraine as a state is not included in the plans of the United States”
By Viktor Filippov, Izvestia, May 3, 2023
The Americans need Ukraine only because of its natural resources, and they need the country without a traditional population. That is why the war of the West with Russia goes to the last Ukrainian. Nikolai Patrushev, Secretary of the Security Council of the Russian Federation, stated this in an interview with Izvestia. He also spoke about the hushing up of Russia's role in defeating fascism, Western theories of economic dominance, and subjugation of Europe by the US .
Nikolai Platonovich, on the eve of the 78th anniversary we are talking of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War. It is no secret that in the modern world, especially in the West, many people want to quickly forget this date, to obscure the role of our country in World War II. How do you rate such a campaign?
An important result of the Second World War was the formation of the United Nations. The Soviet Union played a key role in its creation and occupied one of the leading positions there.
With the collapse of the USSR, Washington and London imagined that they had a chance to create a unipolar world. The Americans do not abandon these ideas even today. In the West, the destruction of Russia or iweakening it to a third-rate country, under external control, is considered a radical way to change the world order.
However, their desires do not take into account the power of our state and the will of the Russian people for independence. Therefore, by seeking dominance, the Americans seek to revise the results of the war, deprive Russia of the status of a victorious country and permanent membership in the UN Security Council, rewrite history, and make everyone forget the heroic deed of the multinational Soviet people.
Attempts to distort the history of the Second World War began in the West even before its last shots had died down. Already in the early stages of the conflict in England, they tried to publish a collection of false documents in order to lay the main blame for the outbreak of war in Europe on the Soviet Union. Modern specialists in juggling facts without a twinge of conscience strive to equate the aggressive ideology of fascist Germany with the communist ideas of the USSR, but in fact they use the imprint of their predecessors.
At the same time, the oblivion of history in the West is accompanied by the suppression of the anti-human essence of fascism. How do you explain this trend of rewriting history?
“But how can they keep silent?” There are many irrefutable facts about how representatives of the American elite shared fascist ideas, supported Hitler financially and organizationally, and today they need to maintain a “democratic” face. In a tailcoat or uniform, fascism and Nazism are an unconditional evil, no matter what clothes they wear. Nevertheless, in order to solve modern geopolitical problems, the Americans willingly revive the neo-Nazi ideology. Such experiments do not lead to domination, but to a world catastrophe, therefore they must be suppressed harshly and uncompromisingly.
Some Western experts argue that global dominance is necessary for the West to ensure its own economic prosperity. It turns out that Russia historically hinders it in this?
In this sense, one can even agree with them. Russia is a bone in the throat of the West, which is trying to create its own world order. Even more than a hundred years ago, the English geographer Mackinder formulated the well-known theory of the geographical axis of history and the so-called Heartland, that is, the middle land occupied by Russia. He argued that control of the Heartland meant domination of the World Island, as he called Eurasia. Dominance over the Heartland, in his opinion, creates the basis for control over the Eurasian space, and this in turn leads to global dominance.
He also authored the idea of isolating our state with the help of the so-called cordon sanitaire from the small countries of Eastern Europe. The initiative to separate Ukraine from Russia , and other peripheral nations of the former empire, also came from Mackinder. So many years have passed, but their goals have not changed.
It turns out that Western geopolitics is still developing according to its patterns?
The anti-Russian Western global strategy has not changed for centuries. I remembered Mackinder as the first who brought the theory under the numerous aggressive "crusades" of the so-called Western civilization against Russia.
Even NATO's eastward expansion is proceeding along the same lines as Napoleon, Kaiser Wilhelm and Hitler.
All major aggressive campaigns against our country were carried out to eliminate it as the main geopolitical force in Eurasia.
Immediately after World War II, the United States developed a whole series of plans to destroy the Soviet Union, intending to subject dozens of Soviet and Chinese cities to brutal atomic bombings. They were driven to this by impunity for nuclear terror against the Japanese people after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
"European politics today is in the deepest moral and intellectual decline"
Speaking in Japan, US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken talked about the human suffering caused by nuclear bombings. True, he deliberately hushed up that they were carried out by Washington. Why, in your opinion, did he not condemn the very possibility of a nuclear conflict?
Nothing surprising. Americans do not know what war is in principle. On their continent, the last battles died down in 1865. They did not experience the horrors of the blockade, destruction, famine, concentration camps, did not lose millions of people. Therefore, their elites easily talk about the need to arm themselves, inflict a military defeat on Russia, and prepare for new wars. They violate international agreements and unceremoniously prepare to resume full-scale atomic tests. They cynically decide to transfer the technology of building nuclear-powered submarines to Australia as part of the AUKUS military association.
But Europe in this conflict is, in fact, at the epicenter of events. Are there politicians there who can objectively assess what is happening and refuse the path proposed by Washington?
European politics today is in the deepest moral and intellectual decline. A vivid example is the Munich Security Conference, where Western politicians gather only to read each other State Department manuals.
Having created the mechanisms of NATO for its own needs, the United States, in fact, occupied Europe. Put in a position of hopelessness, European officials have turned the Old World into an economic base for American experiments, dutifully fulfill NATO's military tasks. And NATO command, under the control of the Pentagon, interacts directly with weapons manufacturers, simply ignoring the official authorities of other countries.
NATO expansion allows Washington to put additional territories of Eastern Europe under its control. Indicative in this regard is the algorithm for joining new countries to the alliance. It prescribes a nation to swear allegiance to the "owner" by transferring the documents of ratification just to the US government.
Whatever it does, the West brings up theories and justifications. Thus, the European elites took very seriously the concept of the "brave new world" of the founder and head of the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, which involves the creation of a prosperous life only for a certain circle of people. Can it be argued that their actions are now dictated by this very concept?
According to the theories of Schwab and others like him, the “wonderful world” does not apply to Russia and its inhabitants. In accordance with its plans, the West is consistently tightening political, military and economic pressure on our country.
NATO has deployed additional military contingents in Eastern Europe. About 60,000 US troops are stationed in the region. The Alliance has modernized the military infrastructure near our borders, increased the scale and intensity of operational and combat training of troops. Delivers equipment, weapons to Ukraine , opened dozens of centers for the training of soldiers for the Ukrainian army.
By falsely declaring the importance of fighting terrorism, the West is actively using terrorist and extremist organizations against Russia, using methods that it used in the 1990s in the North Caucasus.
Western intelligence services are training terrorists and saboteurs to commit crimes on the territory of our country, hoping to instill fear in the population of Russia and undermine the constitutional foundations of our state.
When blocking Russia's financial assets, the Anglo-Saxons use templates tested by England back in the 1920s, when London shamelessly appropriated the gold reserves of the Russian Empire.
“The West is trying to destroy the foundations of the all-Russian and national identity”
In addition to pressure on Russia itself, the West is actively using information and psychological pressure on Russians. What is its ultimate goal?
The West is trying to undermine the internal unity of our country and people, to demoralize our citizens, to inspire them with a sense of inferiority. Entire institutions in the US and Europe are working tirelessly to create the craziest pseudoscientific theories. They substantiate the need to reformat the consciousness of Russians, to repentance [our sins] to fellow citizens of other nationalities and religions, who are allegedly under the so-called imperial oppression.
Several American foundations are actively introducing the Washington elite with their scientific papers, hastily written by the US State Department and the US Department of Defense, called "The Failed State: A Guide to Splitting Russia." The main goal, according to the authors, should be creating and maintaining instability in the states neighboring Russia, as well as on the information war, including the support of the "fifth column" and incitement of domestic Russian separatism.
The organisations of George Soros alone, by the way, who betrayed his compatriots in Hungary to the Nazis during World War II, annually allocate $800 million to create fictional videos, staged photographs and fakes on social networks.
The West is trying to destroy the foundations of the all-Russian and national identity, trying with all its might to impose innovations alien to us, such as gender diversity and historical revisionism.
Are we able to prevent this cultural aggression?
Opponents of Russia are accustomed to abusing our kindness and generosity. Nurtured by Westerners, apologists for anti-Russian ideas, propagandizing liberalism, rejecting the concepts of the Motherland and love for the Fatherland, pour water on the enemy's mill. We should firmly defend our national interests, our culture and history with concern for the future of the state. The Western propaganda machine isn’t successful when it meets the honor, nobility, firmness of spirit and unshakable morality inherent in our people. Traditional spiritual and moral values must be supported and strengthened in every possible way, while not forgetting to debunk Russophobic pseudoscientific theories that become the basis for aggressive anti-Russian actions.
Let's talk about pressure of a different kind. Is it true, in your opinion, the statement that the West seeks to take control of Russia's natural resources, using climate issues?
The United States and its European clients, without any hesitation, from the stands of international organizations promote ideas about the use of Russia's water resources by all states of the planet. They shamelessly play with data that supposedly fresh water reserves in Russia have nothing to do with the population and economic activity of the country. Engaged Western scientists and politicians take it upon themselves to categorically declare that only the countries of the collective West have the right to dispose of the natural resources available in the world, and Russia supposedly received them unfairly. With such statements, the West actually admits that it cannot do without Russia's natural resources.
Recently, Germany closed the last three nuclear power plants, abandoning nuclear energy. What do you think Berlin is counting on?
By promoting the reduction of generating capacity, the German leadership is depriving the national economy of energy-intensive production. Renewable energy sources, which European officials rely on, will not be able to completely replace the energy generated by nuclear power plants. Nuclear power is not only a reliable source of electricity, but also one of the most environmentally friendly methods of generation.
Over the past 20 years, Europe has already lost a quarter of all its forests due to increased harvesting, as 60% of renewable energy comes from biomass, almost half of which comes from forests. At this rate, Europe will be completely without forests.
Having adopted the environmental agenda, European officials categorically ignore the arguments of professional environmentalists about the benefits of cooperation with Russia in the energy sector.
“The safest places will be Eastern Europe and Siberia”
At the same time, the reliability of alternative energy sources is very conditional. For example, the eruption of the Shiveluch volcano in Kamchatka disabled solar panels. But Shiveluch is not Vesuvius or American Yellowstone, which is considered the most dangerous dormant volcano in the world...
Do you remember the Yellowstone Volcano? If he wakes up, it will be an unprecedented disaster. It is capable of eruptions thousands of times greater than those known to mankind. Observations show that over the years the activity of the volcano increases, the magma in it approaches the surface at a high speed. The number of earthquakes in the surrounding caldera is also growing, reaching 2 thousand per year.
Studies made it possible to simulate the course of a probable eruption and its consequences. It is believed that the death of all life in North America is inevitable. From a chain of eruptions of other volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis and acid rains, most of the world's population will suffer. But this worries the population of America, not its politicians.
The problem of protecting the population and economic infrastructure from the destructive power of volcanoes requires the development of scientific research in the field of volcanology. Western countries, obsessively increasing the number of sanctions, should not be protected by them from Russia, but should continue to cooperate in the scientific field, including in geology. Research and achievements in the interests of progress and saving people's lives should become the property of all mankind.
At the same time, I would like to wish the American authorities with their Yellowstone to recall folk wisdom more often. An English proverb says: "People who live in glass houses should not throw stones." Washington, which decides the fate of other states and peoples, should remember that in Pompeii the ancient Romans also lived well and were not averse to debauchery.
By the way, some in America argue that with a possible eruption, Eastern Europe and Siberia will become the safest places. Apparently, here lies the answer to the question why the Anglo-Saxon elites are so eager to take possession of the same Heartland.
Humanitarian disasters and their possibility should push countries towards mutual understanding, not conflicts. However, the world experience in the fight against coronavirus has proven the opposite. Do you think that in the event of a new problem of this magnitude, the experience of dividing countries will be repeated? Or do people still see the situation differently than their governments?
Do not forget that in the United States, as in other unfriendly countries, there are many citizens who are positively disposed towards Russia. Respectable Americans and Europeans may well ignore Washington's anti-Russian propaganda, come to our country and become citizens of the Russian Federation, subject to Russian law and respect for our culture.
By the way, the number of people wishing to choose Russia as their permanent place of residence is growing. Most of them are deeply Christian, who are close in spirit to the moral and ethical values that are protected in Russia, but have long been trampled on in America.
For information: over the past year, the number of US citizens who received passports from other countries has tripled. The myth of the notorious "American dream" has been dispelled. Today, the States have literally slipped into the Middle Ages. The US authorities silently look at the atrocities of radical individuals, force citizens to bow before BLM activists. A real witch hunt can be called the growing persecution of representatives of the media. Over the past two years, more than 300 attacks on correspondents have been committed in the United States. Dozens of journalists have been arrested and convicted merely for carrying out their professional duties, reporting on topics that the authorities prefer to remain silent about.
Domestic political processes in the United States are becoming turbulent and uncontrollable due to irreconcilable differences between elites, corporations and power structures.
Turbulence can be observed not only within this country, but also beyond its borders. And all this against the backdrop of natural disasters and ongoing economic crises. In your opinion, why then, under these conditions, does the United States need Ukraine?
Ukraine is required by the Americans only as an object of merciless exploitation of existing natural resources without a traditional population. Following such a neo-Nazi line, Washington has already turned it into a territory that millions of people are leaving en masse, seeking protection abroad from socio-economic problems and pro-fascist oppression. 30 years of upheavals organized by Washington in Ukraine have led to a halving of the population. And today the White House easily goes to continue the war with Russia to the last Ukrainian. At the same time, the preservation of Ukraine as a state is not included in the plans of the United States.