Jun 16: ‘The only thing worse than war is losing one’
As published by Meduza on June 2, 2023
‘The only thing worse than war is losing one’
Even some of Meduza’s readers support the invasion of Ukraine. We asked them to explain why.
By Meduza as published on June 3, 2023
While we find Moscow’s talking points absurd and unconvincing, there’s no denying it: propaganda works. Even among our readers, there are people who continue to make excuses for the invasion, despite the fact that it’s caused untold pain for millions of Ukrainians and has been destructive to Russia itself.
We decided to hear what these people had to say: we asked them to explain why they support Russia waging war on Ukraine. Over just a few days, we received hundreds of detailed responses, read them closely, and decided to publish some of them with minimal edits.
We believe these letters are an important record, and we hope they’ll be informative for those working to end the war, trying to change the ruling regime in Russia, and wondering how to deal with people whose minds may never be changed.
Andrey
35 year old, Volgograd
A war ends when one side wins. Russia’s defeat will mean national humiliation, which we cannot allow. Therefore, we must win — we no longer have a choice.
Ukraine isn’t looking for peace. They’re just asking for more weapons and shelling Russian cities. Too much blood has been spilled for us to just say, “Thanks everyone, time to go our separate ways.”
Alexey
24 years old, Yakutsk
[Meduza’s] question [about why some readers support the war] is actually wrongly put. I don’t support the war, but I also don’t want Russia to lose. If that happens, it will be worse for everybody, and there’s no doubt the world we’re used to will collapse — and an even greater darkness will come. The war was a mistake, but losing it is unacceptable.
Pavel
30 years old, Germany
I don’t support the war, but I decided to write a response, because people who try to find justifications for the war are being equated with those who support it.
I’m angry at both sides of the conflict. I’m angry at Russia because it started a stupid, bloodthirsty war that leads to senseless killing every day. I’m angry at the countries that support Ukraine because they’re not insisting on an immediate cessation of hostilities, on an end to the senseless killing. Instead, they’re supplying the country with weapons, understanding all the while that it’s only increasing the number of victims.
Sergey
38 years old, city not specified
I don’t support the war. But unfortunately, the very existence of my Motherland (Russia) is at stake. I don’t want to see the collapse, the destruction of my country. I do have questions for the instigators of the special military operation. But first we need to solve the existential issue.
Anonymous
38 years old, city not specified
The only thing worse than a war is a lost war. Starting it was an insane mistake, but now we have to win it; otherwise we’ll be in the position of vae victis. I don’t support Putin — damn him.
Dmitry
35 years old, Moscow
At first, I consistently opposed the war. But over time, I got tired of what was happening, of the constant fear for myself and my friends, of the fact that I could be called up [to the front] if I opposed the war, and of the foreign media writing that Russians need to do something about the current regime and the war.
I also realized that if Russia doesn’t find a way to get out of this situation without losing face or losing on the global stage, life in Russia will get drastically worse. There are a number of examples in world history that indicate this (such as Germany).
Nevertheless, war is always bad, and it doesn’t bringing anything but blood, death, and crippled fates. The decision to wage it was a mistake, that’s a fact, but now the situation has reached a stage where losing isn’t an option.
Oleg
27 years old, city not specified
[I support the war] because in my view, the “peace plan” presented by Zelensky and supported by the “collective West” is highly likely to do so much damage to Russia that we can’t be sure it would survive. And I’m keenly aware that my well-being, my safety, and my life prospects would worsen significantly more [in that case] than if the Russian army manages to do enough damage to Ukraine that the final peace deal is more of a compromise.
Anonymous
36 years old, Tyumen
I don’t support the war in the “Z” sense. What’s more, I lost my fucking mind on February 24, [2022]. But as a resident of Russia, I believe that while sending troops into Ukraine was a mistake, withdrawing them would be a crime. I have no intention of paying reparations for the mistakes of others for the next 20 years. Nobody listens to the losing side.
I’m not going to take up arms. You could say I’m an observer who doesn’t support Ukraine. I went there dozens of times before the Maidan, and I’m aware of how the mood and the laws have changed there. If a European state is being built there, then it’s similar to Francoist Spain or Salazar's Portugal, no different from Putin’s Russia.
Victoria
28 years old, St. Petersburg
At first, my view [of the war in Ukraine] was negative, like my view of all armed conflicts. But over time, as I saw the amount of hatred for Russia and Russians, the joy at the explosion of the Crimean Bridge, and the West’s active arming of Ukraine, I started to realize that Russophobia and other things that I used to think were just stupid propaganda are not all lies. War always brings sorrow, but sometimes unpopular decisions are the right ones.
Nikolai
27 years old, Austria
In my view, the Western point of view isn’t quite correct; I agree with Putin’s idea about a unipolar world with double standards. I believe the West rocked the boat itself and then made Russia’s government responsible for the aftermath. In addition, the constant financial support and pumping of weapons into Ukraine makes the Ukrainian regime continue the war rather than entering negotiations.
Artyom
40 years old, Berlin
What I support first and foremost is not the war but the Russian people and Russia’s interests. At first, I was strongly opposed to it, but as things have developed, I’ve changed my view.
I’ve lived in Germany for 20 years and have never seen so much propaganda. Western politicians and media have taken an absolutely one-sided stance: Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine is a heroic state. Anyone who subscribes to a different view is pushed out of the information space and “canceled.”
The countries of Western Europe have shown themselves to be completely weak-willed and are doing the bidding of the U.S. Ukraine is being directly controlled by the Americans. This conflict fully proves that there are no independent countries in Western Europe and that there are practically none left in Eastern Europe.
Ruslan
28 years old, Kazan
I don’t support the war, but I don’t judge Russia for it either. I believe that by starting the war, Russia showed the weakness of its diplomacy and its inability to negotiate with its neighbors. But I also don’t support the view of those who say Russia is practically the same as Nazi Germany.
First of all, Ukraine had a choice: it could have come to an agreement with us in the first days of the war, before things had gone too far, and met our demands. It would have lost territory, but it would have saved itself as a state. Is territory really more important than human life? So Ukraine is also partially at fault for the lives of those who have died. I’m confident that the lives of the people who lived on the territories that would have gone to Russia would not have gotten any worse. In some cases, it may have even gotten better.
David
34 years old, Saratov
The Minsk agreements were a formality; Russia wasn’t able to implement them unilaterally. The West cynically admitted later on that it was just preparing Ukraine for war.
Nobody was stopping Ukraine from negotiating with the [self-proclaimed, and later annexed] LNR and DNR and giving them autonomy. Instead, Ukraine bombed its own cities.
The war in Ukraine can be regarded as the solving of the national question that was postponed after the collapse of the USSR. Nobody was stopping Ukraine from developing Crimea [before its annexation] either. They only remembered that Crimea was Ukrainian after they lost it. An overwhelming majority of Ukraine’s population honestly voted to join Russia.
Ukraine didn’t want to negotiate with Russia. Zelensky took the wrong position when he believed the West’s promises. In the end, Ukraine’s cities were destroyed, its economy is collapsing, and millions of people have left the country.
Murad
28 years old, Moscow
Despite the fact that our government is corrupt and ineffective, Ukraine poses a danger to our southern border. If we don’t have the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea, we’ll lose influence over the Black Sea and the Caucasus. From 2014 to 2022, all Ukrainian governments explicitly stated that they’d get Crimea and their eastern territories back by force or by diplomacy. That’s a direct threat.
[For comparison:] any European or U.S. country would use force without a second thought if it sensed a threat from its neighbors. I consider their current rhetoric to be a policy of double standards.
Anonymous
30 years old, Astana
For a little over a year, the people I previously considered moral authorities have turned into traitors (who wish harm on citizens of their own country and call for sanctions and don’t try to get them removed), disgraces (they propose that soldiers surrender and blame themselves), weaklings, and liars.
Still now, I think Russia got drawn into this war in vain, very much so. But the method of getting out being proposed by the politicians who I used to trust is shameful, painful, humiliating, and dishonest. It’s better to wait for the people who will replace Putin: Russia is full of smart people.
As far as spending the next three lifetimes repenting, giving up our nuclear weapons, and paying reparations thanks but no thanks. I hope the war will end soon and that as few people will die in it as possible — primarily Russian citizens, but also citizens of Ukraine.
My name is Frederic Smith, I live in Montreal Quebec. I have now reached the ripe old age of ninety four. Perhaps that explains the tardiness in responding to this query. Having lived safely through the second world war, one thing I learned was that when war breaks out, the truth goes out the window. Ergo I don't believe anything I hear from either side in this tragic stupidity. The one thing that stays with me regarding this tragedy, is when the trusting Michael Gorbachev of the Soviet Union introduced Glasnost To the western Capitalist world and in so doing was instrumental in the Berlin wall coming down thereby unifying Germany. This deal was predicated on the promise that NATO and the western countries would not go an inch eastward through Poland. In keeping with the Wests breaking of promises we find NATO, the warlike mouthpiece of the USA, solidly seated on the Russian border in the face of an ex NKVD psychotic called Putin, who was fingered for the job by a drunken sot named Yeltsin. Not to put too fine a point on it, Putin is attempting to justify the war by referring to the struggle against Naziism in the Ukraine. Not completely too far fetched as the Ukraine has a history of its governments with Nazi sympathies.
While I'm up, a short personal story to let you know from whence I come. As a young man when NATO just came into being I found myself facing a ten foot stone wall in the middle of the night. A paint brush in one hand and a bucket of red paint next to me. Getting down to it since time was of the essence, because Duplessis's red squad was afoot. I set about painting 'NATO MEANS WAR', in three foot tall letters. Somewhat prescient seems to me. I would see that sign on a daily basis for a number of years as I would take the Bleury street car to work every day. The sign is gone but the wall prevails and runs north from Pine ave. to Duluth St. set back from Park Ave. belonging to the Hotel Dieu hospital.
I know not where this war will go but as I see it NATO has a ringside seat watching its proxy madness play out, quietly cheering the defeat of the Russian hegemony. NATO will not be satisfied until it runs the world.
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